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Debacle<p>What the hell is wrong with <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a>? The two most important console clients, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Poezio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Poezio</span></a> and <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Profanity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Profanity</span></a>, both released version 0.15.0 today. Same version number, same day, same first letter "P". Do you want to confuse us all?</p><p>At least Poezio is written in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Python</span></a>, Profanity in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/C" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>C</span></a>/#Clang, i.e. there are some differences. Otherwise it would be too much.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://piaille.fr/@mathieui" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mathieui</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://devlug.de/social/profanity" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>profanity</span></a></span></p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a></p>
XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation<p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XSF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XSF</span></a> Announcement</p><p>Today the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> Standards Foundation publishes an Open Letter to urge <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Meta</span></a> to adopt XMPP for messaging <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/interoperability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>interoperability</span></a>.</p><p>It’s time for real interoperability. Let’s make it happen.</p><p><a href="https://xmpp.org/announcements/open-letter-meta-dma/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/announcements/open-le</span><span class="invisible">tter-meta-dma/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/rtc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rtc</span></a><br><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/standard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>standard</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/dma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dma</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.jugendhacker.de/@j_r" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>j_r</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> </p><p>Note, that <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> became better for large groups in recent years. It was horrible five or ten years ago, but IIRC, e.g. the developers of <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prosody</span></a> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@prosodyim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>prosodyim</span></a></span> and <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Ejabberd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ejabberd</span></a> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.process-one.net/@ejabberd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ejabberd</span></a></span> optimized something about (not) sending presence or whatever.</p><p>Moderation is still not very advanced, but <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> made a bit of progress: There are "XEP-0425: Moderated Message Retraction" and <a href="https://xmppbl.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">xmppbl.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Better than nothing.</p>
Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Slixmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Slixmpp</span></a> 1.10.0 has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SleekXMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SleekXMPP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Python</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CPython" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CPython</span></a>) <a href="https://slixmpp.readthedocs.io/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">slixmpp.readthedocs.io/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> </p><p>(2/2)</p><p>➕ Universal protocol for many use cases, chat, social, conferencing, IoT.</p><p>➕ Proven scalability (mainly in proprietary contexts: Whatsapp, Zoom, Grindr, FCM, Fortnite etc.).</p><p>➕ Secure. Somewhat. Well, at least neither inflammable nor slippery.</p><p>Best is: DJT cannot call Jeff&nbsp;B. and tell them to shut <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> down, because there are nerve-racking journalists in the chat group. That might happen with Signal, though.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>xmpp</span></a></span></p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/digitalSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>digitalSovereignty</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/UseJabberDoCrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UseJabberDoCrime</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> </p><p>I cannot even parse "foo is secure" or "bar is insecure". What does security mean in a given context? Is Signal inflammable or slippery?</p><p>The big plus points in favour of <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a>/<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> are:</p><p>➕ Not a silo in the Amazon cloud. Many servers available everywhere.</p><p>➕ First class clients for many OSes, not only Google Android and Apple iOS.</p><p>➕ Long history since 1999-01-06, very good <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/LindyEffect" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LindyEffect</span></a> property.</p><p>➕ <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> standard governed by the <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XSF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XSF</span></a>, various independent implementations.</p><p>(1/2)</p>
Jure Repinc :linux: :kde:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://daedal.io/@thomzane" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>thomzane</span></a></span> This Instant Messaging Platforms infographic by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fediscience.org/@niboe" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>niboe</span></a></span> is also useful for a quick reference. It's from 2022 so maybe not 100% correct now.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/InstantMessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InstantMessaging</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Chat</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Software" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Software</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Privacy</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Decentralisation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Decentralisation</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Jami" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jami</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Tox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tox</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Briar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Briar</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Element" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Element</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a></p>
Stupeflo 🕯️<p>Si il y-a des gens qui veulent entrer en contact avec moi via jabber, mes DM sont ouverts pour que je vous passe mon JID.</p><p><a href="https://pipou.academy/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://pipou.academy/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a></p>
LibreTICs 🇪🇨<p>Este vídeo fue borrado de <a href="https://mast.lat/tags/YouTube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>YouTube</span></a> pero alguien lo resubio a <a href="https://mast.lat/tags/peertube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>peertube</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://video.asgardius.company/videos/watch/29c7f7f7-5b2d-4b69-9a7c-21114c2664b8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">video.asgardius.company/videos</span><span class="invisible">/watch/29c7f7f7-5b2d-4b69-9a7c-21114c2664b8</span></a></p><p>El vídeo habla sobre el <a href="https://mast.lat/tags/EEE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EEE</span></a> ["ADOPTA, EXTIENDE, EXTINGUE" en español]</p><p>cc <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@codeDude" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>codeDude</span></a></span> </p><p> <a href="https://mast.lat/tags/fediverso" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediverso</span></a> <a href="https://mast.lat/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> y <a href="https://mast.lat/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://mast.lat/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a></p>
codeDude :archlinux: :neovim:<p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> user <br>Do you know about the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/EEE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EEE</span></a> (Embrace, extend, and extinguish) attack that google made against the xmpp service?</p>
codeDude :archlinux: :neovim:<p>Me di cuenta que este vídeo fue borrado de youtube, pero alguien lo resubio a <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/peertube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>peertube</span></a> <br><a href="https://video.asgardius.company/videos/watch/29c7f7f7-5b2d-4b69-9a7c-21114c2664b8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">video.asgardius.company/videos</span><span class="invisible">/watch/29c7f7f7-5b2d-4b69-9a7c-21114c2664b8</span></a></p><p>El vídeo habla sobre el <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/EEE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EEE</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/fediverso" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediverso</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Threads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Threads</span></a> y <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a></p>
JoinJabber<p>We are back online 🎉</p><p>Both the site and all our XMPP rooms are working again.</p><p>The issues turns out was IPv6 not working in our setup which is still under investigation.</p><p><a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/JoinJabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JoinJabber</span></a></p>
Dave🌱<p>In other news, my tiny self-hosted <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> server using <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/Snikket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Snikket</span></a> is now 100% compliant with the <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/Conversations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Conversations</span></a> compliance test!<br>Out of the box Snikket basically gives you 95% compliance, with it "just" missing out on XMPP over TLS. Their documentation on this is rather lacking, so it took some fiddling to get it working.<br>Overall Snikket is quite nice. But I don't like how it seemingly goes out of its way to not call itself XMPP/Jabber. Isn't that just confusing?<br><a href="https://compliance.conversations.im/server/tofu.im/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">compliance.conversations.im/se</span><span class="invisible">rver/tofu.im/</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@evacide" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>evacide</span></a></span> </p><p>Reminder to people who work in the <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/military" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>military</span></a>, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/healthSector" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>healthSector</span></a> or any other institution with <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/clearance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>clearance</span></a> levels:<br>Please use <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/InstantMessaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InstantMessaging</span></a> systems, that reflect them, for <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/classified" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>classified</span></a> information.</p><p>E.g. there is "XEP-0258: <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Security</span></a> Labels in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>" <a href="https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0258.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0258.h</span><span class="invisible">tml</span></a></p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gultsch.social/@daniel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>daniel</span></a></span></p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Confidential" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Confidential</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Secret" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Secret</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/TopSecret" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TopSecret</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Tutanota</span></a></span></p><p>Am I right, that none of them is fully <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/freeSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>freeSoftware</span></a> (<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/openSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>openSource</span></a>), none of them is federated, and none has first class clients on other OSes than Google Android and Apple iOS?</p><p>There is an IETF standard for federated instant messenging, implemented by various servers and client applications since 1999. Why don't you promote that?</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>xmpp</span></a></span></p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁𝘀𝗶𝗯𝗲<p>Привет, <strong>%username%</strong>!<br>Так как сегодня поживал <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>jabber</span></a> , конфы?<br>Всё ровно, только у <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> серверов, хостящихся на "Hetzner", всё как "обычно" (не без приключений)?</p><p>А я тут перевод на русский для <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/aTox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>aTox</span></a> решил немного поправить, чтоб был по-приятнее, вот только пока не знаю, буду ли я его использовать) Но тут, в Fediverse, вроде встречаются потенциальные контакты с <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Tox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tox</span></a> ID. Хз, может и пригодится, если не сейчас, то при <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/%D0%A7%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Чебурнет</span></a> .<br><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> , конечно, получше во всех планах практически (кроме передачи тел.номера <strong>исключительно</strong> ЦРУ - друг другу можно не светить ими), но интернет-апокалипсис пока не случился с подачи <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/%D0%A0%D0%9A%D0%9D" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>РКН</span></a> , поэтому все сидят на своих Тележках, <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a> и т.д.</p><p>Если интересно про <strong>Signal Messenger</strong>, то ссыль на ТХТ: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/signal-in-russia" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">tinyurl.com/signal-in-russia</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> (10 kb, Добро пожаловать!) или <strong>Tox ID</strong> (чтоб потестить): 3B7EA2C1A5DB3F5DAB455CFD196CD43330FBDCF7EA944CFD7E98EBCAC0EFCF07BD3E29F47DCB</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://lor.sh/@ru" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ru</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.ml/@rf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rf</span></a></span></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.zaclys.com/@lascapi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lascapi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Goffi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Goffi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@iznogoud" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>iznogoud</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>xmpp</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@snikket_im" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>snikket_im</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gultsch.social/@daniel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>daniel</span></a></span></p><p>Different use cases:</p><p>1. Find new people to talk to? Go to <a href="https://search.jabber.network/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">search.jabber.network/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@sjn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>sjn</span></a></span>! </p><p>2. Find chat id (JID) of people already known, but you only have their phone number? <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Quicksy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Quicksy</span></a>!</p><p>3. Same, but you do *not* have their phone number or they are not on a phone number based service or a different one than you? No idea, tbh.</p><p>4. Contact people via <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a>, but they don't use it yet and you need to onboard them? <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Snikket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Snikket</span></a> by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@snikket_im" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>snikket_im</span></a></span></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Goffi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Goffi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@iznogoud" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>iznogoud</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>xmpp</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@snikket_im" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>snikket_im</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gultsch.social/@daniel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>daniel</span></a></span></p><p>(2/2)</p><p>1. Have JID == email address. Nice, if email is already used.</p><p>2. Put an <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/RFC7259" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RFC7259</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a>-ID field in your email header! (You need to configure your MUA to show it.)</p><p><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7259" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/</span><span class="invisible">rfc7259</span></a></p><p>3. Put your Chat-Id (JID) everywhere, both in textual form and QR code: Email signature, business card, vcard, web page, front door.</p><p>Maybe even <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/tattoo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tattoo</span></a> your skin (<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Mehndi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mehndi</span></a> to avoid <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/lymphoma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lymphoma</span></a> and ease account migration).</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehndi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehndi</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gultsch.social/@daniel" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>daniel</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.heise.de/@heiseonline" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>heiseonline</span></a></span> </p><p>Freie, federierte Lösung auf Basis von <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OSM</span></a> und <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/PubSub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PubSub</span></a> wann? 🙂</p><p>/me ducks and covers</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Fahrrad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fahrrad</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@Anarcat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Anarcat</span></a></span></p><p>I'm not a huge fan of "individual <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/selfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>selfHosting</span></a>", but prefer "<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/community" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>community</span></a> self-hosting". Because of <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/lorryFactor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lorryFactor</span></a> and danger of overwork. Self-hosting for ones family has additional risks, given that some families are dangerous places.</p><p>I'm co-maintaining the <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> server of the local <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Berlin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Berlin</span></a> Internet club we founded in 1995 🙂</p><p>We give people a free and federated alternative to closed silos such as Whatsapp or Signal.</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/digitalSovereignty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>digitalSovereignty</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/UseJabberDoCrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UseJabberDoCrime</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
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