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tyil<p><a href="https://social.ainmosni.eu/@ainmosni" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu</a> All the people harping on how <a href="https://fedi.tyil.nl/tags/systemd" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#systemd</a> is better than <a href="https://fedi.tyil.nl/tags/sysvinit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sysvinit</a> seem to have forgotten there were alternatives to sysvinit already...</p>
Joel Carnat 📽️<p><strong>That systemd Thing: A Debate With No Ending</strong></p> <p><a href="https://eggflix.foolbazar.eu/videos/watch/dd6ab9d5-1ef9-4c35-91fa-e0885a1bcf50" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">eggflix.foolbazar.eu/videos/wa</span><span class="invisible">tch/dd6ab9d5-1ef9-4c35-91fa-e0885a1bcf50</span></a></p>
Grow Fediverse<p>Ok fam, after about a week of being a complete and utter newbie ingesting tutorials about <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> I think I am finally understanding two things: what distros are, and that for some reason my brain will correlate <i>ANY</i> technical topic with food.</p><p>Linux is ice cream<br>Linux families are particular flavors of ice cream<br>And like ice cream, there’s basically certain core flavors, many specific flavors, and always the potential to invent new flavors. The ice cream landscape seems to break out something like this to a newbie:</p><p><b>Vanilla</b> - Debian; <b>French Vanilla</b> - Ubuntu; <b>Vanilla Bean</b> - LMDE<br><b>Chocolate</b> - Red Hat; <b>Chocolate Chip</b> - Fedora; <b>Chocolate chocolate chip</b> - Alma;<br><b>Fruit, Strawberry</b> - Arch; <b>Fruit, Peach or Cherry or pretty much any other fruit</b> - any other Arch<br><b>Caramel</b> - Gentoo; <b>Vanilla Caramel Swirl</b> - Redcore<br><b>Neapolitan and Spumoni</b> - When you do super custom stuff like make Ubuntu have rolling release distro using Arch’s package system with Gentoo’s OpenRC for the init system<br><b>Exotic, like cucumber or ranch or avocado</b> - Everything else that isn’t one of the other big buckets like SUSE, Solus, Quirky, LFS, Zeroshell, Vine, etc.<br><b>Nuts</b> - Slackware (I mean this in an affectionate way, butter pecan is my fav!)<br><b>Gelato</b> - BSD<br><b>Chocolate Gelato</b> - Solaris</p><p>Like ice cream, Linux can have toppings too:<br>Sauce - init systems; and some people hate chocolate sauce - systemd<br>Whipped cream. Yeah sure there’s different brands and differences in texture or flavor a bit, but they’re basically all doing the same stuff - Packaging<br>Cherry - the GUI. It’s only there for looks, you could absolutely eat the ice cream without it, but most diners expect it on their sundae</p><p>Distros - An ice cream sundae. All the things (flavor, toppings, what it’s served in) are presented to you at once. Oooor some of the more lean ones are more like an ice cream cone<br>Eating a pint of ice cream right outta the freezer container - CLI</p><p><a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Linuxnewbies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linuxnewbies</span></a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=LinuxHumor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LinuxHumor</span></a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BSD</span></a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Debian</span></a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Gentoo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gentoo</span></a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Slackware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Slackware</span></a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ubuntu</span></a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=ArchLinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ArchLinux</span></a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SystemD</span></a> <a href="https://my-place.social/search?tag=SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SysVinit</span></a></p>
jablkoziemne<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tux-edu.tv/accounts/darth" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>darth</span></a></span> What are the advantages of <a href="https://101010.pl/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sysvinit</span></a> over <a href="https://101010.pl/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>systemd</span></a>? Or you picked it just from your familiarity with it and <a href="https://101010.pl/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>devuan</span></a> <a href="https://101010.pl/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://101010.pl/@centopus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>centopus</span></a></span> again, I consider this the other way around.</p><p>The whole <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hate</span></a> against <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rust</span></a> is as absurd as the hate <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">against</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SystemD</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a>, because if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SysVinit</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xorg</span></a> were viable people would've fixed them.</p><p>And <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.treehouse.systems/@AsahiLinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>AsahiLinux</span></a></span> delivered results at neck-breaking speeds thx to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/marcan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>marcan</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://vt.social/@lina" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lina</span></a></span> ...</p>
Da Linux beardude<p>I'm now gonna try Arch Linux with inits I haven't tried/not yet familiar. I'm curious how it'll all go, lol.</p><p>I'm open for any suggestions on what inits to try other than OpenRC, runit, dinit, s6, and sysvinit cos I've already done those, but I'm also open to hear your thoughts and if I should also try them on Arch as well.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/arch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>arch</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/archlinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>archlinux</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>freesoftware</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/busybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>busybox</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/openrc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>openrc</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/runit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>runit</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/dinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dinit</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/s6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>s6</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/s6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>s6</span></a>-rc <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sysvinit</span></a></p>
Da Linux beardude<p>So, from my notes:</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/voidlinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>voidlinux</span></a>: symlink a service's name from /etc/sv/ to /var/service to enable a service then sv up &amp; down will become available for that service.<br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/chimeralinux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chimeralinux</span></a>: dinitctl, kinda like systemctl<br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>devuan</span></a>: update-rc.d &lt;service&gt; default to get it on the runlevels, then enable/disable to do fun things. Only do update-rc.d remove when the package is removed from the system.. Gotcha</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>freesoftware</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>debian</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sysvinit</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/dinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dinit</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>musl</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>systemd</span></a></p>
Da Linux beardude<p>7 seconds. Not bad, but look at that RAM usage...</p><p>220 MiB ! That's actually lightweight!<br>530 MiB with xorg+xfce 4.18. Still lightweight !</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/devuan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>devuan</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>debian</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sysvinit</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>freesoftware</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaosfem.tw/@freya" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>freya</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sk.girlthi.ng/@thermia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>thermia</span></a></span> I disagree because the preexisting stack was slow, inefficient, inflexible and had a shitload of issues to the point that noone wanted to fix it.</p><ul><li>If <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SysVinit</span></a> et. al. were good, noone would've switched to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SystemD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SystemD</span></a>. </li></ul><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
jbz<p>Take that systemd (?)</p><p>｢ The biggest change in SysVinit 3.14 is overcoming the 127 character per line limit of inittab files that has been there for roughly the past three decades. With SysVinit moving forward, inittab lines can be up to 253 characters long... Those with really long inittab lines are really best off punting off that logic to a shell script that can then be called from the inittab ｣</p><p><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/SysVinit-3.14-Released" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">phoronix.com/news/SysVinit-3.1</span><span class="invisible">4-Released</span></a></p><p><a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sysvinit</span></a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tech.lgbt/@krishean" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>krishean</span></a></span> that's not how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>systemd</span></a> works.</p><p>SystemD was created because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SysVinit</span></a> was shit and noone fixed it or made something better.</p><ul><li>Same with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PipeWire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PipeWire</span></a>: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ALSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ALSA</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OSS</span></a> are really janky!</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wayland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Wayland</span></a> is the future as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Xorg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Xorg</span></a> is being <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EoL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EoL</span></a>'d.</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> as a Kernel works fine, so no reason to replace it.</li></ul><p>For the shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GlibC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GlibC</span></a> we have alternatives like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bionic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bionic</span></a> and espechally <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>musl</span></a>! </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
OSTechNix<p>How To List All Running Daemons In Linux <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Daemon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Daemon</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Process" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Process</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Initsystem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Initsystem</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Systemd</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/SysVinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SysVinit</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/OpenRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenRC</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxcommands" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linuxcommands</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxbasics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linuxbasics</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxhowto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linuxhowto</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linuxadministration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linuxadministration</span></a> <br><a href="https://ostechnix.com/list-all-running-daemons-in-linux/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ostechnix.com/list-all-running</span><span class="invisible">-daemons-in-linux/</span></a></p>
Geekland<p>LPIC-1 101.2: SysV vs systemd - ArchiTecnologia <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>systemd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sysvinit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sysvinit</span></a> <a href="https://architecnologia.es/lpic-1-101-systemd-sysv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">architecnologia.es/lpic-1-101-</span><span class="invisible">systemd-sysv</span></a></p>
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