Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://techhub.social/@linuxer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>linuxer</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://darmstadt.social/@stormii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>stormii</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@karl_ist_super" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>karl_ist_super</span></a></span> ja, sowas wie <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> & <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a>...</p><ul><li>Nur weil etwas alle/die meisten machen wird's nicht weniger falsch!</li></ul><p>Natürlich kannste <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> nutzen, nur dann musste halt auch drauf klarkommen dass so zentralisierter shice durch eine christofaschistische Regierung (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a>) irgendwann eingestampft wird.</p><ul><li>Davon dass es eine bescheuerte Idee ist aus gründen von <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datenschutz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Datenschutz</span></a>, einen Anbieter zu nutzen der ne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a> verlangt mal abgesehen.</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monocles</span></a> verlangt hingegen <em>garkeine</em> Daten und erlaubt anonymes Bezahlen per <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CashByMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CashByMail</span></a> !</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/thxbye" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>thxbye</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EOD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EOD</span></a></p>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@pixelcode" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pixelcode</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@phreaknerd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>phreaknerd</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@melsdung" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>melsdung</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://punk.cyber77.de/@nocci" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nocci</span></a></span> das bzgl. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> halte ich bestenfalls für ne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Werbel%C3%BCge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Werbelüge</span></a>, weil nicht evidenzierbar!</p><ul><li>Anders als <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> fällt <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> jedenfalls nicht unter <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> und verlangt keine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pers%C3%B6nlichenDaten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PersönlichenDaten</span></a>.wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a>.</li></ul><p>Und wer <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a> oder anderen Anbietern nicht vertraut kann <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> selbst.hosten und hat bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> ohnehim doe Kontrolle über die Schlüssel.</p><ul><li>Bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> hingegen ist weder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> noch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> möglich!</li></ul><p>Alles andere ist naiver Glauben dass <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> für Nutzer*innen Knast riskieren würde…<br><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1142345</span><span class="invisible">51915193036</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@truls46" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>truls46</span></a></span> <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/facehoof" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>facehoof</span></a></em></p><ul><li>Deshalb schaut mensch vorher sich um.</li></ul><p>Ich <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/xmpp.servers.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">empfehle nur Server die ich selbst getestet habe</a>, außerdem hilft <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> & <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.librem.one/@guardianproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>guardianproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Orbot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Orbot</span></a> dabei, diese idealerweise als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> zu erreichen.</p><ul><li>Wo keine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a> oder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IPs</span></a> verlangt, abgefragt, übermittelt oder gespeichert werden, können diese auch nicht ausgehändigt werden.</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://troet.cafe/@pixelschubsi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pixelschubsi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@inaruck" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>inaruck</span></a></span> nicht zwangsweise!</p><ol><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> bedarf immer einer <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a>!</p></li><li><p>Es ist problemlos möglich dediziert Accounts nir für 1 Konversation zu erstellen.</p></li><li><p>Zentralisierte Systeme sind anfällig für Auskunftsersuchen. Eine Redkation kann dagegen einfach nen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>-Server selbst hosten = volle <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kontrolle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kontrolle</span></a>!</p></li></ol><p>All das kann <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> inhärent <em>nicht</em>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@inaruck" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>inaruck</span></a></span> bei <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114040731460033414" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>allen</em></a>!</p><ul><li>Gerade weil die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Massen%C3%BCberwachung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Massenüberwachung</span></a> der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> darauf abzielen, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Erpressung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Erpressung</span></a>|smaterial zu sammeln!</li></ul><p>Deshalb ist es wichtig keinerlei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> von sich zu geben!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> <em>IST</em> DIE INAKZEPTABLE LINIE!</li></ul><p>(Und ja, das trifft auch indirekt via <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a> zu!)</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@erebion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>erebion</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@inaruck" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>inaruck</span></a></span> es gibt <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">soviele Gründe</a> weshalb Mensch nicht <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> vertrauen sollte.</p><p>Aber um es nochnal klar zu erklären:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> verlangt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a> = <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> (Persönlich identifizierbare Informationen). [Und nein, sich irgendwo zwielichtig ne Nummer als Ausrede greift nicht!]</p></li><li><p>Signal ist zentralisiert & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> sowie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>!</p></li><li><p>Signal fällt wegen Sitz in den <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> unter <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> = inhärent mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DSGVO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DSGVO</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a> inkompatibel!</p></li><li><p>Signal erlaubt keine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> aller Keys und ist deshalb für Einige Angriffsmethoden offen!</p></li></ul><p>Nur echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Dezentralisierung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Dezentralisierung</span></a> wie bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> kann <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datenschutz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Datenschutz</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Informationssicherheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Informationssicherheit</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Vertraulichkeit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Vertraulichkeit</span></a> sicherstellen.</p><ul><li>Anders als Signal kann <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> nicht gegen Nutzer basierend auf Herkunft (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rufnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rufnummer</span></a>!) diskriminieren und anders als Signal funktioniert XMPP+OMEMO problemlos über <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> und kann als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosted</span></a></em> werden, für maximale <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Privatsph%C3%A4re" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Privatsphäre</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Datenhoheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Datenhoheit</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Die strukturellen Probleme von Signal machen es angesichts einer <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gleichgeschaltet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gleichgeschaltet</span></a>|en <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a></em> ein absolut unnötiges <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Risiko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Risiko</span></a>, denn ich garantiere <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> wird für keine*n User*in lebenslange <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Beugehaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Beugehaft</span></a> riskieren!</p><ul><li>Genauso wie's <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220112020000/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">keine</a> <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LoglessVPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LoglessVPN</span></a>|s"</em> gibt!</li></ul><p>Und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> ist sehr wohl in der Lage <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Govware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Govware</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Backdoors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Backdoors</span></a> zu integrieren, denn sonst wären die wegen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITAR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITAR</span></a> bereits geknastet worden, weil diese <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nutzer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nutzer</span></a>*innen aus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kuba" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kuba</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nordkorea" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nordkorea</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Russland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Russland</span></a> haben!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://koelle4future.de/@blog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>blog</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@sylv_a" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>sylv_a</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://literatur.social/@viennawriter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>viennawriter</span></a></span> nur dass <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> auch nen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|e <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SinglePrivider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SinglePrivider</span></a> - Lösung ist die unzulässig <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a>|n verlangt!<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
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