Brad Linder<p>The Framework Laptop 12 goes up for pre-order on April 9th. Framework's first laptop with a convertible tablet-style design, touchscreen, and stylus support will be positioned as an entry-level laptop, but pricing hasn't been revealed yet. <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FrameworkLaptop12" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop12</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> <a href="https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-12-pre-orders-open-next-week" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">frame.work/blog/framework-lapt</span><span class="invisible">op-12-pre-orders-open-next-week</span></a></p>
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langhaarschneider<p>Are Here <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> users which can recommend dockingstations which allow you to start a <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/framework16" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework16</span></a> laptop by pushing a button on the dockingstation? <a href="https://sueden.social/tags/frameworklaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>frameworklaptop</span></a> <br>Or can <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> directly recommend one?</p>
Trevor<p>I am planning on streaming the mainboard replacement for my <a href="https://sunny.garden/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a>, but to do so I'll need a computer at the table where I'm going to do the work - can't do it at the desktop, the desk is (rightly) organized around my wife's work stuff. So - welcome back, cursed computer! The <a href="https://sunny.garden/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ubuntu</span></a> <a href="https://sunny.garden/tags/Surface" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Surface</span></a> Pro 3 returns, in all its glory. This is still a pretty nice device, despite its wear and tear from nearly a decade of service. Solidly built, nice action on the keyboard, beautiful screen. <a href="https://sunny.garden/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://sunny.garden/tags/microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>microsoft</span></a> <a href="https://sunny.garden/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> <a href="https://sunny.garden/tags/streaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>streaming</span></a></p>
Tommi 🤯<p>Since I am in Rome for a couple of days, I decided to come to work at the <strong>Library of the Senate of the Italian Republic</strong> this fine morning.</p><p>The library staff is not friendly at all, but the place is crazy.</p><p>I was asked what kind of laptop this is, and of course I proudly replied: “it’s a <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span>, you should get one 😜”</p><p><a href="https://pan.rent/tags/Rome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Rome</span></a> <a href="https://pan.rent/tags/Roma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Roma</span></a> <a href="https://pan.rent/tags/Italy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Italy</span></a> <a href="https://pan.rent/tags/Italia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Italia</span></a> <a href="https://pan.rent/tags/SmartWorking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SmartWorking</span></a> <a href="https://pan.rent/tags/workplace" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>workplace</span></a> <a href="https://pan.rent/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> <a href="https://pan.rent/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> <a href="https://pan.rent/tags/FrameworkComputer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkComputer</span></a></p>
Carcajou tabernak<p>Dis mastonaute si tu as un laptop framework 13 pouces diy, est ce que tu pourrais me dire si tu en es content en terme de solidité et de modularité.<br>Je m'interroge notamment sur la fermeture aimantée (oui je sais il y'a 5 vis en plus).<br>Aussi est ce que c'est vraiment si facile que cela à monter et à upgrader ? (J'ai déjà changé RAM, DD et clavier sur un thinkpad hein).</p><p>Enfin bref je suis preneur de tout retour sur les laptop framework.<br>C'est pas pour un ami😁<br>C'est juste pour envisager peut-être pour une fois autre chose qu'un thinkpad d'occasion. 😉</p><p>Le repouet donne le poil vif et l'œil soyeux. Ou l'inverse. </p><p><a href="https://corneill.es/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> <a href="https://corneill.es/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> <a href="https://corneill.es/tags/Question" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Question</span></a></p>
Zygmunt Krynicki<p>I've just installed 96GB of RAM into my <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> 13 and I must say that this computer has exceeded my expectations. The memory was about $200 (USD) and it arrived from a local, third party reseller in one day.</p><p>I will not run AI models, so the 5600M memory is sufficient for me. The fact that this was an upgrade from 8GB is what counts.</p><p>Here comes all the VM memory I ever needed :)</p>
Mark Stosberg<p>Honest review for those considering buying a used <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> laptop:</p><p>I don't recommend the original with the Intel 11th gen processor. There's been a battery drain problem, which seems possibly related to their swappable ports design. This lead to lower battery-life on a daily basis and a battery that eventually died what I would consider prematurely.</p><p>Now I have a daily problem with the USB ports dying until I reboot. Looks like I may need a new motherboard after 3.5 yrs.</p><p><a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a></p>
9to5Linux<p><a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> Weekly Roundup for March 2nd, 2025: <a href="https://floss.social/tags/NVIDIA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NVIDIA</span></a> 570 graphics driver hits stable, <a href="https://floss.social/tags/NetworkManager" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetworkManager</span></a> 1.52 addsIPvlan interface support, <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Armbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Armbian</span></a> 25.2 ships Linux kernel 6.12 LTS, <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FrameworkDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkDesktop</span></a>, <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> 12, <a href="https://floss.social/tags/LibreOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LibreOffice</span></a> 25.2.1 fixes 77 bugs, <a href="https://floss.social/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KDE</span></a> Plasma 6.3.2, <a href="https://floss.social/tags/LinuxMint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LinuxMint</span></a>'s revamped <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Cinnamon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cinnamon</span></a> app menu, and more <a href="https://9to5linux.com/9to5linux-weekly-roundup-march-2nd-2025" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">9to5linux.com/9to5linux-weekly</span><span class="invisible">-roundup-march-2nd-2025</span></a></p><p><a href="https://floss.social/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mk.moth.zone/@eri" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>eri</span></a></span> even for a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Laptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Laptop</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tablet</span></a> I consider the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FrameworkDesktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkDesktop</span></a> a total <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WontBuy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WontBuy</span></a>!"</em> on my end, as it has less <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Upgradeability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Upgradeability</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Repiarability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Repiarability</span></a> than a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lenovo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Lenovo</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/X230Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>X230Tablet</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fairphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fairphone</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FP3plus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FP3plus</span></a>, mich less anything I consider <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desktop</span></a>"</em> hardware.</p><ul><li>Seriously, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> could've chosen so much better options or just done some sort of Mounting, adaptors & I/O shield to mount a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> mainboard and expand it's I/O to be on-par with a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MacMini" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MacMini</span></a> and people would've happily accepted that.</li></ul><p>It's really sad when <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DIYperks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DIYperks</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fnsGHe8eE" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">put in more effort than an entire company at designing a Desktop</a>! </p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114096004768883519" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1140960</span><span class="invisible">04768883519</span></a></p>
LavX News<p>Framework Laptop 12: A Game-Changer for Modular Computing</p><p>The newly unveiled Framework Laptop 12 promises to disrupt the entry-level laptop market with its modular design and robust specifications. Aimed at students and professionals alike, this convertible ...</p><p><a href="https://news.lavx.hu/article/framework-laptop-12-a-game-changer-for-modular-computing" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">news.lavx.hu/article/framework</span><span class="invisible">-laptop-12-a-game-changer-for-modular-computing</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/SustainableTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SustainableTech</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/ModularDesign" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ModularDesign</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a></p>
Ercanbrack<p>I’ve been using a Lenovo Yoga for my 2-in-1 Linux computer duties. But now I have another, possibly better option. Don’t get me wrong—my Lenovo has been working great!! But ultra-repairability, and ultra-upgradability has some nice advantages! I’ll be watching this one closely! 🙂</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/ConvertibleLaptops" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConvertibleLaptops</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Touchscreen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Touchscreen</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/LinuxTablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LinuxTablet</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/RightToRepair" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RightToRepair</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Laptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Laptop</span></a></p><p>From: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://layer8.space/@killyourfm" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>killyourfm</span></a></span><br><a href="https://layer8.space/@killyourfm/114066503179512472" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">layer8.space/@killyourfm/11406</span><span class="invisible">6503179512472</span></a></p>
scy<p>I wonder whether US companies recognize the amount of economical damage this administration is going to cause them in the coming years.</p><p>Like, would I still buy a <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> after today? I'm not sure. My gut says no.</p><p>And "move all your stuff off of US services" is rapidly making its way to the top of my to-do list.</p>
cliffle<p>Alright, so. Recently, about once a day, my <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> 16 has been doing ... this.</p><p>This results in the loss of all USB.</p><p>Which includes the internal keyboard, any external keyboards, any bluetooth keyboards... basically, everything except the trackpad, which is HID-over-I2C, and the power button, which is wired to the cros EC. I wind up having to hard-power-cycle the machine.</p><p>I'm resisting the urge to throw this annoyingly bendy laptop out a window. Anybody got any ideas for how to debug this? <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> ?</p>
9to5Linux<p><a href="https://floss.social/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> Announces Framework Desktop and 2-in-1 Framework Laptop 12 <a href="https://9to5linux.com/framework-announces-framework-desktop-and-2-in-1-framework-laptop-12" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">9to5linux.com/framework-announ</span><span class="invisible">ces-framework-desktop-and-2-in-1-framework-laptop-12</span></a></p><p><a href="https://floss.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a></p>
Linh Pham<p>New webcam module installed in my <a href="https://linh.social/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> 16 and definitely looks like potato-y, even under the usual cruddy lighting.</p><p>Getting the bezel off probably took longer than it probably should have and I really, really, really dislike dealing with flat flex cables.</p>
Flaky<p>the robot mascot for the Framework 2nd Gen Event is really cute tbh</p><p><a href="https://furry.engineer/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> <a href="https://furry.engineer/tags/frameworklaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>frameworklaptop</span></a></p>
Dex<p>Framework 2nd Gen presentation was mostly great, but the Framework Desktop using exclusively soldered ram is a massive egg on their face (even if the pricing is very competitive). I'm very excited to see how things develop over the next couple years with that product line. I'm thinking about upgrading my Framework 13 i5-1340p to the highest end Ryzen chip for this generation as well.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>framework</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/amd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>amd</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.ca/tags/righttorepair" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>righttorepair</span></a></p>
Tina<p><a href="https://todon.eu/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a> <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> <a href="https://todon.eu/tags/LiveLaunch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LiveLaunch</span></a> </p><p>Falls jemand Bock hat, bei einem Live-Launch von Framework dabei zu sein, die streamen live auf Youtube. <br>Aber niemand weiß bisher, was gelaunched wird. Mal gucken, vllt was interessantes. :-) </p><p>Youtube-Livestream auf der Framework Seite: <br><a href="https://event.frame.work/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">event.frame.work/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br>Laut Info solls um 10:30 PST losgehen, das ist jetzt gleich in unserer Zeitzone.</p>
Ety, Ringer of Bells ^G<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@frameworkcomputer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frameworkcomputer</span></a></span> 2nd Gen livestream starting now! <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8k7jTF_JCg" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=-8k7jTF_JC</span><span class="invisible">g</span></a></p><p><a href="https://hive.institute/tags/Framework" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Framework</span></a> <a href="https://hive.institute/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a></p>
LavX News<p>Framework's Modular Laptop Revolution: Build Your Own with New Chassis Kit</p><p>Framework has taken a bold step in the modular laptop market by introducing a chassis kit that allows users to create their own laptops using existing mainboards. This innovative approach not only low...</p><p><a href="https://news.lavx.hu/article/framework-s-modular-laptop-revolution-build-your-own-with-new-chassis-kit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">news.lavx.hu/article/framework</span><span class="invisible">-s-modular-laptop-revolution-build-your-own-with-new-chassis-kit</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/SustainableTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SustainableTech</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/ModularComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ModularComputing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/FrameworkLaptop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameworkLaptop</span></a></p>
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