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@elaurian
And the fun irony is, that when you set up the system to value people intrinsically instead of for their contributions, many of them suddenly will be able to contribute more. 
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@paco @Sheril
The problem is the system itself, because it promotes and rewards bad behaviour. You need to change the rules of the game so that better behaviour is allowed to thrive, and then we can let scientists and engineers do what they were trained to do. The best system I've found for that was devised by a team of top engineers, scientists and other experts of various fields called The Technical Alliance, and they called their system Technocracy, long before it's meaning was changed to what you may know it as now. They picked it because it means "rule by skill", in other words, get the politicians and business people out of the way and let the experts just do their thing of making people's lives better. More information here: https://www.technate.org
#technocracy #technate
"Mr. #Musk’s grandfather was also a flamboyant leader of the political movement known as #technocracy.
"Leading #technocrats proposed replacing democratically elected officials and civil servants — indeed, all of government — with an army of scientists and engineers under what they called a #technate. Some also wanted to annex Canada and Mexico."
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/04/opinion/elon-musk-doge-technocracy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.AE8.DkY0.xuUNqvaLaS8R&smid=url-share
#USpol #technosolutionism #oligarchy #TechBros #techOligarchs #FarRight #SiliconValleyRight #ElonMusk #JoshuaHaldeman
The New York Times · Opinion | The Rise and Fall of Elon Musk
Interesting read about Elon Musk’s technocracy movement and old map of USA from 1930.
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2025-03-17-et-92-aar-gammelt-kort-deles-igen-og-igen-i-usa?
Is this what Elon Musk is going for? 
Just going to hypothesize something here... for posterity and accountability to weird strategic thoughts I have when I try to channel this Musk creep. The tech-bro's have already taken over. That is why they are now sending the DOGE teams with armed escorts and guns to smash small offices of the government. Trump is the vindictive figurehead. It's the tech lords running the show, and they're going to do a deal with China to get rid of Putin.
I'm open to the possibility of something beyond shocking happening. There have already been rumors of revaluing the gold at Fort Knox, restructuring the debt, a national cryptocurrency...
What about, a merger / joint venture with China and the US becomes a total one-party state, USA Inc. They'll leave the illusion of elections, and the Dems will continue to be the useful idiots as they have been for a decade.
The game is no longer Dem vs. Rep. There will be no normal midterms. The struggle at the top is between the Christian Nationalists, the technofascist (Nation State) crowd, and the MAGA base that Bannon leads. Think of Bannon's people as the brown shirts they'll eventually use to silence dissent.
Imagine a chip-access deal or some sort of organized takeover of Taiwan (stripping the island of its sovereignty in Trump fashion) over a set period of time for USA, Inc. to be able to scale semiconductor fabs.
The culture war is a distraction. The rich are stealing the future. 
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@JustTooOdd
I think that anyone that's been following the Political Compass for the last 10 or more years could see this coming. Anyone familiar with what Technocracy (www.technate.org) has been saying for nearly a century would say that this was inevitable, without adopting a non-monetary economic system like Technocracy. The opportunity for changing course is closing fast. Democracy has proven unable to stop this kind of power grab, as we were warned it would be. Both this article and the Political Compass show that this is happening around the world, not just in the US. It is just the nature of the monetary Price System.
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@ned @The_Icarian
The only way to do that would be to get rid of the mechanism by which weath is accumulated and exchanged for anything, i.e. money, as well as eliminate the motivation to do so, such as providing a post-scarcity environment. Luckily, both of these are possible in North America (and possibly elsewhere) by using Technocracy: https://www.technate.org/tiki-index.php?page=Begin
The added benefit of this is that it also makes political government unnecessary, thus removing the other primary tool for removing people's rights. By comparison, in Technocracy, people's rights would be an objective part of how the system functions, built-in at the highest level. Any violation of such would be like a vital part of your car's engine being broken.
#technocracy #technate #SocialJustice
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@tedcurran @cpkimber
That sounded interesting to me until the part about lowtech. One path that was definitely not taken in history is Technocracy, which we could have done as early as the 1930s. It not only does away with capitalism and market economics, it does away with money, debt, even politics, and replaces them with a scientific economic system that gives everyone a high standard of living, and more freedom than we've ever had in history. Far from being lowtech however, it leverages technology for the maximum benefit of everyone. It is a very FOSS idea though.
We still have a chance though. For more you can read my post on it here: https://autistics.life/@murdoc/113693052709257525 and/or this website: www.technate.org
Autistics Life CommunityMurdoc Addams 🧛🏻:ri: 🇨🇦 (@murdoc@autistics.life)This is the first Appendix to my Introduction. A good way to get to know me is to know what's important to me, and with these I'll introduce those topics and projects that are. They'll remain as pinned posts on my profile so I can refer people to them should the topic ever come up.
The first and most important thing in my life is something called Technocracy. Most likely you haven't heard of it before, and if by some chance you have, what I am talking about here is most likely not related at all to what you've heard before. So what is it exactly? Keeping in mind that it is a topic large enough that it is normally taught in a study course, and any less than that risks what might be called "Blind Men and the Elephant Syndrome", in short Technocracy is a proposal for a sustainable, post-scarcity economic system.
To describe how it works, the shortest description would be "Technocracy is a system where machines do all the work people don't want to do." This is of course a big oversimplification, but it gets the essential point across, and that is that our society has reached a point, technologically speaking, where most work is obsolete. And our continued attempts to maintain an economic system that requires human labor is not only holding us back from a better future, but is indeed making things worse. That is why an essential part of Technocracy is to separate a person's labor from their ability to consume. Only by doing this can we let machines do what they do best, and free the rest of us to pursue better lives for everyone. As for how exactly it accomplishes this, there's more to it than can be put in any social media post. Anyone interested in learning more can visit www.technate.org and/or talk to me about it. I'll also be posting more about it from time to time here.
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