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It is now illegal to transmit personal information of EU citizens to cloud infrastructure in the #US as they won't be protected by the #GDPR.
Many European service providers will have to move quickly to avoid fines, but eventually #EU data will be held in the EU, benefiting companies in Europe, and supporting #DigitalSovereignty.
That means AWS, Azure, Google and iCloud can lose a sizeable chunk of their customer base if no moves are made. I am all for it.
https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/you-can-no-longer-base-your-government-and-society-on-us-clouds/
@waeiski the elephant in the room there, is that #Signal servers are said to be mostly on Amazon AWS.
Maybe they are thinking of an alternative like #Deltachat (with a posteo.net email address, or other such auto-encrypted email address not hosted on US soil)? This alternative exists right now, it's just that posteo.net addresses are not free to rent. Merely inexpensive. It's cross-platform: is said to be stable, even on #MacOS and #iOS or #iPadOS
@sbb@c.im@waeiski I just installed Deltachat from f-droid, and it offers to create a free email account (supporting autocrypt) with a server called nine.testrun.org (located in #Amsterdam).
So I guess #Deltachat is free to use in that sense. I'm using this test account to E2E-encrypted chat with my posteo.net account in Deltachat in #linux.
#Android
@sbb there is also #ArcaneChat that is a Delta Chat client also in #fdroid it comes with possibility to create free account in https://arcanechat.me #email server, the server is hardened to only ever allow encrypted email incoming and outgoing so you can't even receive spam there nor has the server ever access to unencrypted messages, the server is hosted in Germany
@adbenitez @waeiski I see that this "free account in arcanechat.me" email server is in #Dusseldorf, #Germany. Good to know, much appreciated. 
@scatty_hannah @waeiski So considering the importance of not leaking data - what would you say with respect to Google Assistant and Apple Intelligence Report? Do you propose to remove those on everyone's mobile devices across the board somehow? Do you see any possible leakage of data there? https://c.im/@sbb/114032786446300932
@sbb @waeiski yes, I would. But realistically people won't do it right now. Depending on the communication smartphones should be left at home and communication should be done in person.
If you are able to set up the necessary infrastructure to use XMPP and/or Delta with your own servers, you are also able to use a degoogled phone. But that complexity usually won't happen in activist spaces that are not tech centered.
I *have* encountered non-tech people who have switched to GrapheneOS, though.
Regarding XMPP+OMEMO see my other post.
https://queer.party/@scatty_hannah/114064291268657664
Realistically your "friends and family" will also use it on a smart phone and you'll face the same problem.
If your threat level allows people to ditch the comfort of those we're talking a whole other level of opsec considerations.
@sbb @scatty_hannah @waeiski You can trivially use GrapheneOS to get rid of Google Assistant. Also the Android security model prevents Assistant from just reading your messages, because smartphones actually have a much better permission model than anything else.
And again, Delta Chat is *provably* leaking data. A *lot*. Whilst everything else is very theoretical mind games that currently are not happening. You can introspect what happens on a smart phone, you can audit access by GAssistant, etc. All that you talk about is not happening.